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A cold case is a term 悬案是术语
that I don't really like 我真的不喜欢
because it brings the connotation that nobody 因为它的含意是没有人
is paying attention to it, 会关注到
which just isn't true. 事实并非如此
It's an unsolved case. 它是个未破案件
I recall getting the old VHS tape out of evidence. 我记得我从证物里拿出那盘旧的家用录像磁带
What really stuck out to me in the Krashoc case... 在克拉肖克案件中最让我印象深刻的...
...was actually watching that on the screen... ...竟然是看屏幕上的画面...
...You see the snow-covered mountains ...你看到被白雪覆盖的山脉
in the background. 在背景中
There's snow in the parking lot. 停车场有大量的积雪
There's a dumpster just next to the building. 大楼旁边有个垃圾箱
And then right beside the dumpster, 在垃圾箱的右边
there's the body. 那里是尸体
I remember Darlene's hair moving in the breeze 我记得达琳的头发在微风中飘动
with her naked body laying out in a parking lot 她赤身裸体躺在
with a bunch of snow. 有一堆雪的停车场里
For me, that's when the brutality hit. 对我而言，那就是暴行
The way she was treated and killed, 她被对待和杀害的方式
you knew you had a monster on your hand. 你知道你遇到了恶魔
I was a homicide detective with CSPD for nine years, 我在科罗拉多斯普林斯警局当了9年凶案侦探
and the last three years, 过去三年里
「吉姆·艾沙姆侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
it was strictly assigned to cold cases. 它只负责悬案
I recall getting the Krashoc case，September of 2016. 我记得拿到克拉肖克的案件，在2016年9月
We knew it was different than the other case 我们知道它与其它案件不同
we had seen before. 我们之前见过的
Darlene Krashoc's case file was significant in its length. 达琳·克拉肖克的案卷很长
「约瑟夫·索莫斯基侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局」
The pages were in the thousands easily. 有数千页之多
An immense amount of work had gone into that case with phenomenal amounts of physical evidence. 那起案件做了大量的工作，搜集了大量的物证
It never ended for 32 years. 32年从未停止
Cases that either Lieutenant Kenda 肯达警督接触案件
touched as a supervisor or as a detective 作为主管或者侦探
30 years later, 30年后
looking through this case file, 浏览这个案卷
Jim Isham and I knew that there was no stone left unturned. 吉姆·艾沙姆和我知道，我们尽力了
The man is, uh, you know, a giant. 这个人，呃，你知道，重量级人物
I worked in my father's business 我在我父亲的公司工作
when I got out of college and I wound up hating it. 我刚大学毕业时，我非常讨厌它
And I said I wanna be a policeman. 后来我说我要成为一名警察
So I applied to several departments 我向多个部门提出了申请
and Colorado Springs was 科罗拉多斯普林斯
the first one that made an offer. 是我第一个申请的部门
My wife, Cathy, and I, we took Horace Greely's advice 我妻子凯茜和我，我们听从了霍勒斯·格里利的建议
and we went west. 我们去了西部
And it was wonderful. 这太棒了
So I was very busy being a policeman. 然后我成了一个忙碌的警察
I didn't like it, I loved it. I would've done it for free. 我不是喜欢它，我是爱它，我义无反顾
It's always been my greatest concern about 一直以来我最关心的是
「乔·肯达警督」
my career that I did not solve 8% of my cases, of my 387 cases. 我职业生涯中8%未破案件，在387起案件中
Victims who never got justice in court. 受害者永远不会出庭伸张正义
But the only case that has no statute of limitations is homicide. 但唯一没有诉讼时效的案件是谋杀
The most important part of homicide investigation 凶案调查最重要的
is to never, ever give up. 是永不放弃
《凶案猎手：永不放弃》
1987年3月18日
That early morning was about 5:20 in the morning. 那天凌晨大约是5点20分
「约翰·泰勒警长，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役）」
We're probably about almost an hour away from our shift being over. 我们大概还有一个小时就要下班了
It was a bitter, bitter cold day. 那天非常寒冷
I had made the decision, 我做了个决定
"Let's check some of the local bars, make sure we don't have any, “让我们检查一些当地的酒吧，确保我们没有任何人”
you know, body passed out in their cars in this freezing weather." “你知道，在这个极寒天气里，昏死在他们车里”
So we turn to the back, behind this establishment, 所以我们转到后面，在这幢建筑后面
and we both saw something laying next to the dumpster 我们都看到有东西躺在垃圾箱旁
behind one of these businesses. 在其中的一家店后面
Is that a mannequin? 那是人体模型吗？
And as we were closer, 当我们走近时
we saw that it was a female. 我们发现那是个女人
That's a real person, uh, and when you see that, it takes you back for a minute. 那是个真人，呃，当你看到那个，它让你愣住了
Of course, they showed you horrific pictures of 当然，他们在培训学院给你看过可怕的照片
people that had been shot, or stuff like that, in training academy. 那些被枪杀的人们，或诸如此类的东西
But it's different when you come across it yourself. 但当你自己遇到时，就不一样了
I don't think anyone's ready for that. 我认为没人对此有所准备
And at that time, dispatch probably woke every one of them up when I came over the air and said, 当时，我接到调度，几乎把每个人都吵醒了
"We have a D.B.", meaning a dead body. “我们有个D.B.”，意思是一具尸体
It's about 5:25 in the morning, 大概是早上的5点25分
and the phone rings. 电话响了
And it's the PD Communications Center. 是警局通讯中心
So they had patrol officers on the scene 然后他们有巡逻人员在现场
of a discovered body at the rear of the Korean Club. 在韩国俱乐部后面发现尸体
In 1987, I'd been in the police department for 14 years. 1987年，我在警局干了14年
I was a sergeant in Homicide. 我是凶案组的警长
It's completely and totally unpredictable. 这完全不可预测
There is no routine. 没有定律
Every case 每个案件
is absolutely unique. 都独一无二
The CSPD Homicide unit, they were the blue-ribbon, 科罗拉多斯普林斯警局凶案组，他们是一流的
「珍妮·史密斯，埃尔帕索郡前任检察官」
um, homicide unit in my opinion. 嗯，一流的凶案组，在我看来
The sergeant on scene 现场的警长
happened to be Joe Kenda, 恰好是乔·肯达
and I appreciated his dedication. 我很欣赏他的奉献精神
He really wanted to do right by the victims. 他真正地想为受害者伸张正义
This is one of the most violent crimes I've ever seen. 这是我见过的最暴力的罪案之一
I've seen many things, not many this extreme. 我见过太多事情，但这样极端的很少
What always sticks with me in cases is 案件中始终让我难忘的是
the crime scene itself, the appearance of the victim. 犯罪现场本身，受害者的模样
The images of that never stop, never go away. 这些画面永不停止，永不消失
We talk about words like, 我们常说的词语类似于
uh, it was horrible and it was terrifying, 嗯，太可怕了、太吓人了
but you don't really understand the meaning of that until you're 但你并没有真正理解，直到你
knee-deep in the human perversion 深陷在人类的堕落中
that is rape and murder. 那是强奸和谋杀的变态
The body was nude, 尸体是赤裸的
other than her jeans were on one of her ankles. 除了牛仔裤在她的一个脚踝上
A shoe was laying off to the side. 一只鞋被在一边
There was a diamond ring on the ring finger 无名指上有一枚钻戒
of her left hand. 在她的左手上
Single stone, small. But it has value. 小的单粒钻石，但很值钱
It isn't removed. 没被取走
This isn't robbery that goes south somehow. 这不是抢劫未遂案
So that eliminates one motive almost immediately. 几乎排除了抢劫动机
Looking at her face, 看她的脸上
she has three coat hangers 有三个衣架
made into a bridle you would see on a horse. 做成你在马背上看到的缰绳一样
My God. 天哪
At the back of the head, 在后脑勺
these wires are twisted together 这些金属丝被拧在一起
to form a handle where someone can control 形成了一个把手
the movement of her head. 勒住了她的头
The wires cut into the joints of her cheeks 电线扎进了她脸颊关节处
and into the flesh of her face. 嵌入了脸上的肉里
It's very disturbing. 这很恐怖
Very disturbing. 非常恐怖
She had bite marks on her body. 她身上有咬痕
「布莱恩·里兹警督，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役）」
One of the nipples had been bitten off. 其中一个乳头被咬掉了
I was really amazed by the savagery 我对这种残暴行为感到惊讶
committed by someone who has all been reduced to a hyena. 一个沦为禽兽的人所犯下的恶行
Incisor wounds from his teeth into a dead body. 尸体上的门牙咬伤
Removal of a nipple by biting it off. 通过咬断来摘除乳头
Savage crime. 残暴罪行
It wasn't a random, quick, impulsive action. 这并非是随机快速冲动的行为
Someone that had a monster inside him 这个恶魔
had spent considerable time torturing her. 折磨了她很长的时间
The body looked so cold and so alone. 尸体看起来如此冰冷，如此孤独
First off, you gotta figure out who this victim is. 首先，你必须弄清楚这个受害者是谁
「拉里·马丁，检调办公室主任（退役）」
In this particular case, lo and behold, 在这个案件里，你瞧
her driver's license was laying on the ground 她的驾驶照就在地上
next to the body. 在尸体旁边
It turns out that she's an active soldier. 证明她是一名现役军人
She, uh, belonged to a unit out at Fort Carson. 她，呃，隶属于卡森堡的一个部队
Colorado Springs in 1987 1987年的科罗拉多斯普林斯
was a military town. 是一个军事城镇
So we know that she's Darlene Krashoc 我们知道她是达琳·克拉肖克
and she's 20 years old. 她20岁
She's active duty military. 她是现役军人
She's young, has her whole life in front of her, 她很年轻，她的一生就在眼前
and somebody took it from her in the worst possible way. 有人以最糟糕的方式把它夺走了
But it puzzled me why he would display the ID. 但我不明白他为什么要展示身份证
It's as if he's taunting us. 那好像是他在嘲讽我们
Here's who she is, 这就是她
but you don't know who I am, do you? 但你不知道我是谁，是吗？
Charles Green is our crime scene technician 查尔斯·格林是犯罪现场技术员
Technician Green was a very competent guy. 技术员格林是个非常能干的伙计
Charlie was a meticulous evidence collector, 查理是一个一丝不苟的取证者，
photographer. 摄影师
He was so careful and so attentive 他是那么细心，非常专注
to every little detail. 每一个细节
There was three cigarettes on the asphalt next to the body. 在尸体旁的柏油路上，有三个烟头
「迈克·内斯特探员，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役）」
It made me wonder why 它令我好奇，为什么
they were so close to the body. 它们离尸体这么近
Is it an employee sneaking outside for a smoke break, 是员工溜出去抽烟休息
or is our perpetrator admiring his work? 还是行凶者在欣赏他的作品？
So when we collected this evidence, 所以当我们收集这些证据时
We did so with the best possible methods. 我们用尽可能好的方法这样做
Rubber gloves, masks, everything, 橡胶手套，口罩，所有东西
in order to preserve it for subsequent identification. 以便将其保存供后续识别
We see tire tracks right next to this body... 我们看到这具尸体旁边有轮胎痕迹...
...which indicates the body transported to that location. ...这表明尸体被运到了那个地方
There was no question in my mind this crime occurred somewhere else. 在我看来，罪行无疑发生在别处
Where did it occur? We don't know. 它在哪儿发生？我们不得而知
The question is who is responsible for this death? 问题是谁应对这次死亡负责？
Where is he now? 他现在何处？
He's a ghost. 他像个幽灵
He's a puff of smoke. 他是一缕青烟
He's a shadow in the night. 他是黑暗中的影子
How am I gonna figure this out? 我要怎么解决这个问题？
"After Sgt. Kenda arrived, 肯达警长到后
closer examination was made of the body. 对尸体进行了更仔细的检查
The body is that of a White female 这是具白人女尸
laying partially on her back. 半躺仰卧
There were three cigarette butts 有三个烟头
located on the ground. 位于地面上
These were each picked up 这些都被捡起了
and a sample of the soil under the body." 还有尸体下面的土壤样本
The evidence they collected had been packaged, 他们收集的证据已经包装好了
categorized just like we would today, 就像我们今天的分类一样
and what that does is preserves that evidence. 目的是保存证据
「吉姆·艾沙姆侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
If we didn't have the evidence that they collected in 1987, 如果我们没有他们在1987年收集的证据
the case goes nowhere. 这案子就毫无结果
So I'd leave that crime scene area and I wanna go talk to the people in the Korean Club. 然后我离开现场，想和韩国俱乐部的人谈谈
「乔·肯达警督」
Could this have occurred inside the bar and the victim dumped outside? 会不会发生在酒吧，然后弃尸门外？
That's one of our first things to look at because of the location of the body. 这是我们首要考虑的之一，因为尸体所处的位置
「布莱恩·里兹侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役）」
So we show this ID photograph 所以我们展示了这张身份证照片
to all the employees. 向全体员工
No one's ever seen her before. 之前从未有人见过她
But the bartender does provide one useful piece 但酒保向我们提供了一条
of information in terms of timeline for our crime scene. 有用的犯罪现场时间线信息
He's able to say he was the last person out. 他可以说是最后一个出来的人了
It was right around 2:00. 那是2点左右
He didn't notice anything. 他没发现什么异常
5:20 in the morning, that's when the victim 凌晨5点20分，也就是受害者
was first identified. 首先被发现
That narrows our timeline down to 3 hours and change. 这就把时间范围缩小到了三个小时
That's important. 这很重要
Darlene, where were you for those 3 hours? 达琳，那三个小时你在哪里？
And with whom? 和谁在一起？
When we got to the morgue and the body thawed, 当我们到达停尸房，尸体解冻了
the violence became even worse. 暴行显得更加严重
The autopsy performed on Darlene told us a lot. 达琳的尸检告诉了我们更多
Not only was she beaten, uh, she was sexually assaulted. 她不仅被打了，呃，还被性侵了
「拉里·马丁，检调办公室主任（退役）」
She was sodomized. 她被鸡奸了
She strangled on the wires around her neck. 她被脖子上的电线勒死了
Fighting for air to breathe, unable to do so. 挣扎着呼吸，却无法呼吸
That's what actually killed her. 这是她真正的死因
You look at this and you think, 你看着这个，你会想
My...Who are we looking for here? 天啊…我们在这里找谁？
The cold temperatures can trap liquid that comes from a perpetrator. 寒冷的温度可以冻住来自罪犯的液体
Seminal fluid or other such things... 精液或其他类似的东西...
...that's recoverable when it melts …融化后可以恢复
and drains onto the table. 然后排放到桌子上
So all those things can be useful. 所有这些东西都是有用的
Most homicides in the United States occur 美国大多数凶杀案都发生在
between people who know each other. 彼此认识的人之间
So you have to find out who Darlene Krashoc is 所以你必须找出达琳·克拉肖克是谁
before you can possibly find out may wanted her dead. 然后才可能知道谁想让她死
I answered the door. It was a sergeant from the Army. 我应的门，那是一位陆军中士
And he said, uh... 然后他说，呃...
「贝蒂·克拉肖克，达琳的母亲」
...your daughter Darlene has been killed. ...你女儿达琳被杀害了
And I said, "Killed?" 我说，“被杀了？”
I said, "What happened?", and he said, "A homicide." 我说，“怎么回事？”，然后他说，“谋杀”
And I said, "A homicide? 我说，“谋杀？”
Somebody killed her?" “有人杀害了她？”
At that point, there was disbelief. 在那一刻，难以置信
They had it wrong. Um... 他们一定搞错了，嗯...
「保罗·克拉肖克，达琳的父亲」
There was no conflicts going on, so... 那儿没有冲突发生，所以...
She shouldn't be dead. She couldn't be dead. 她不应该死，她不可能死了
Quite honestly, I was a basket case. 坦白地说，我是个意志薄弱的人
Nobody wants to see their child go. 没人愿意看到自己的孩子离开
And then it's like, "Why? What happened? 然后就像是，“为什么？发生了什么？”
Course, nobody had any answers. 没人知道答案
When reality really set in, 当真正面临现实时
your world just fell apart. 你就崩溃了
My world fell apart. 我的世界分崩离析
It left an empty hole in the middle of you. 它让你心中空落落的
Mr. and Mrs. Krashoc come in 克拉肖克夫妇进来
to deal with the loss of their child. 处理他们失去孩子的事
Darlene was born in Baltimore, Maryland. 达琳出生在马里兰州巴尔的摩
「真实家庭录像」
She was a good kid. 她是个好孩子
She was very outgoing. She was very caring. 她很外向，非常有爱心
It was more than mother and daughter. 我们不仅仅是母女关系
You know, we were kinda best friends. 你知道，我们是最好的朋友
She was a tomboy. 她是个假小子
She wanted to work on big trucks. 她想在大卡车上工作
Darlene wanted to join the military. 达琳想参军
She had in her head her dream of wanting to drive tractor trailers. 她脑子里有一个梦想，想开拖挂车
So she joined to get the Army to teach her. 所以她参军是为了让军队教她
Her serving... Of course it made me proud. 她的服役...让我非常自豪
We asked them about something we noticed at the crime scene. 我们向他们询问了我们在犯罪现场注意到的一些事情
That Darlene was wearing, what looked to us, like an engagement ring. 达琳戴着的，在我们看来，像是一枚订婚戒指
Did they have any knowledge of that? 他们对此知情吗？
Oh, yes. They did. 哦，是的，他们知道
She was actually married once 事实上她结过一次婚
to a young man who was in the Army. 和军队里的一个年轻人
A Glen Gerringer. 格伦·格林格
I really didn't know anything about him. 我真的对他一无所知
She and Glen hooked up and decided to get married. 她和格伦好上了，然后就决定结婚
They could live off post and... 他们离开基地生活，然后...
You know, which I didn't agree with, but, uh, 虽然我不同意，但是，呃
she was gonna do whatever she wanted to do anyhow. 反正她我行我素
19, 20, I mean... 19岁，20岁，我是说...
You don't know what you wanna do. 你不知道你想做什么
I mean, come on. You think you do, but you don't. 我的意思是，拜托，你以为你会，其实你不会
They were not compatible for each other. 他们彼此并不和睦
They filed for divorce and her divorce would have been final, 他们提出离婚，最终她离婚了
uh, a few days after she was killed. 呃，没过几天她就被杀害了
Now, divorced husbands always intrigue me. 现在，离婚的丈夫引起了我的注意
We already know that whoever did this crime hates women. 我们已知，犯下这一罪行的人憎恨女人
Sometimes a divorcee can hate their ex-wife. Really hate her. 有时候离婚的人会恨他们的前妻，真的恨她
So this young man has emerged. 所以这个年轻人进入了视线
He's at the top of our list. 他是我们的头号嫌疑人
Gerringer was also a soldier out of Fort Carson. 格林格也是卡森堡的一名士兵
The benefit of working with Fort Carson 与卡森堡合作的好处是
was the immediate access of their soldiers. 可以直接接触到他们的士兵
If we needed to talk with somebody, 如果我们需要与某人交谈
「布莱恩·里兹侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役） 」
CID, or their military police, would go pick those people up 刑事调查部或他们的宪兵，会去接那些人
and make them readily available to us. 并让他们随传随到
Well, Glen. Who are you? 好吧，格伦，你是谁？
How'd you feel about this divorce? 你觉得这次离婚怎么样？
Were you angry enough to kill her over it? 你是不是气到要杀了她？
You can always tell someone who is lying and trying to look emotional. 你总是可以告诉那些撒谎并试图表现出情绪化的人
Trying to fake as if they're sobbing. 假装他们在哭泣
But that wasn't Gerringer. He was genuine. 但格林格不是，他是真诚的
He was very emotional about the loss of Darlene Krashoc. 他对达琳·克拉肖克的离世感到非常激动
He goes on to explain 他接着解释
that even though they were divorced, they were friends. 即使他们离婚了，他们还是朋友
He was asked were he was at the night before. 他被问及前一天晚上在干嘛
「拉里·马丁，检调办公室主任（退役）」
He's got a new girlfriend in his life. 他有了一个新的女朋友
He was with her all night the night before. 前一天晚上他整晚都和她在一起
They hadn't seen each other in months. 他们已经好几个月没见面了
Totally cooperative with us, has an alibi. 完全配合我们，有不在场证明
We took hair samples, we took blood, and we looked at his teeth. 我们采集了头发样本、血液，还检查了他的牙齿
They in no way match the bite mark evidence we have from the victim. 它们与我们从受害者那里得到的咬痕证据完全不符
We move on. 我们继续进行
So who is Mr. X? We still don't know. 那么X先生是谁呢？我们仍未可知
Everybody we talked to, we took a blood sample from and preserved it 我们交谈过的每个人，都采血样并保存
to create a database of biological samples. 以创建生物样本数据库
The process to do that was complicated. 这样做的过程很复杂
And it was expensive. 而且代价高昂
And I argued, let's do this. 我力争，我们就这样做吧
And it may never come to anything, but it could come to everything. 它可能毫无结果，但必须这么做
So we did it. 我们做到了
So everybody we spoke to in this case, I had their blood. 我们询问这个案例的每个人，我都有他们的血
The storage of that evidence, over time, so that the DNA doesn't deteriorate, 储存这些证据，随着时间推移，DNA不会过期
「珍妮·史密斯，埃尔帕索郡前任检察官」
and could still be used for comparison, 30 years later, was phenomenal. 30年后仍可用来比对，这是了不起的
In 1987, DNA was really not even part of our conversation. 在1987年，DNA技术并不普及
The first DNA case was in England in 1986. 首个DNA案例是1986年英国
It was something that we thought, 当时我们想
"Wow, that sounds pretty cool. I wonder if someday we'll be able to use it." “哇，听起来很酷，我希望有一天我们能用上它”
But then, fast-forward 30 years. 然而，快进30年
We knew Darlene was an active duty soldier stationed here at Fort Carson. 我们知道达琳是驻扎在卡森堡的现役军人
「吉姆·艾沙姆侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
So I became in contact with a CID agent. 于是我联系了一个刑事调查局的探员
And that was agent, Jessica Veltri. 那是杰西卡·维尔特里探员
As a special agent for Army CID, 作为陆军刑事调查局的探员
I investigate felony-level crimes where the Army has an interest. 我负责调查涉及陆军的重罪
「杰西卡·维尔特里，美国陆军刑事调查局特别探员」
And, as part of that role, I requested some cold cases to take a look at. 职责所在，我要求查看一些悬案
I was then introduced to Detective Isham 然后我被介绍给了伊莎姆警探
and Detective Somosky, who were also working on the cold case team 还有索莫斯基警探，他们也在悬案组工作
with Colorado Springs Police Department. 科罗拉多斯普林斯警局的
There was a lot of evidence, from the victim's clothing... 有很多证据，来自受害者衣服上的...
To cigarette butts found near the body. 尸体附近的烟头
The bite marks. 咬痕
The hanger, the ligature. 衣架，绑带
And so they actually got the DNA tested and uploaded to the system. 他们事实上进行了DNA测试并上传到系统中
Initially, the first piece of DNA evidence 起初，第一份DNA证据
that had the best profile was a cigarette butt. 最引人注目的是一个烟头
Well, is that cigarette butt related to my crime scene? 那个烟头和我的犯罪现场有关吗？
Or is it just trash that was in the parking lot? 还是停车场里的垃圾？
The lab examiner was able to confirm that the DNA profile 实验室检查人员确认了DNA图谱
on the cigarette butt matched a DNA profile 烟头上的DNA图谱匹配
that was all over the victim's clothes. 受害者的衣服上到处都是
The phrase "Unknown Individual Number 1" “1号未知个体”这个短语
came from the DNA lab report, 来自DNA实验室的报告
where they identified a profile and it didn't match any other samples 他们在报告中发现了一个标本，与其他样本不匹配
that had been submitted to the lab. 提交给实验室的
And so then we knew, with confidence, okay, this was the right guy. 所以我们有信心知道，好吧，就是这家伙
It's just who is he? And where is he? 只是，他是谁，他在哪儿？
I get a call from CID. 我接到刑事调查局的电话
New information comes forward. 新信息出现了
There is a female soldier whose name is Carolyn Smith. 有一个名叫卡罗琳·史密斯的女兵
She's active duty military. 她是现役军人
And she's sitting in an interrogation room, awaiting my arrival. 她坐在审讯室里等我
I get there and start speaking with Carolyn Smith. 我到了那里，开始和卡罗琳·史密斯交谈
This girl is Darlene's best friend. 这女孩是达琳最好的朋友
We are well-aware that 20-year-old girls 我们深知20岁的女孩
tend to bump their gums with their friends. 会和她们的朋友们闲扯
What can Smith tell us about Darlene and her associates? 关于达琳和她的同事，史密斯能告诉我们什么？
She had spoken to Darlene about 2 o'clock 达琳和她说过
on the afternoon before she went missing. 在她失踪前一天的下午大约两点钟
She indicated then, Darlene was gonna go out 她表示达琳要出去
to Shuffles nightclub with a couple of guys 和几个家伙去舒夫勒夜总会
from her unit, there at Fort Carson. 来自她在卡森堡的部队
Shuffles bar had a dance floor, music. And a young crowd. 舒夫勒酒吧有舞池、音乐，一群年轻人
Darlene says, "Sgt. Lord is gonna take me." 达琳说，“洛德中士要带我走”
That's her sergeant who's in charge of her platoon. 那是她所在排的中士
And she says another fellow, Tim Robinson, is gonna go with them. 她说另一个叫蒂姆·罗宾逊的人会和他们一起去
So Lord and Robinson, they're probably the last ones to see her alive. 所以洛德和罗宾逊可能是最后看到她活着的人
The thing I always say of CID, God bless them, 我总说刑事调查局，上帝保佑
they don't mess around. 他们不会乱来
The civilian authorities say he might be involved in a murder, 当局说他可能参与了一起谋杀案
they will put your nose in the dirt, and handcuff you, 他们会把你按在地上，给你戴上手铐
and drag you from wherever you are to an interrogation room. 把你从你所在的地方拖到审讯室
And CID, in typical fashion, whips them up in 30 minutes. 刑事调查局通常在30分钟内就把他们抓起来了
Lord and his friend, Robinson, 洛德和他的朋友罗宾逊
obviously know that Darlene Krashoc is dead. 显然早知道达琳克拉肖克死了
Everybody in Fort Carson knows. 卡森堡的每个人都知道
Why wouldn't they come forward with the fact that they were with her that night before? 他们为什么不说他们前一天晚上和她在一起？
So when I walked in to talk to Erik Lord, I took his handcuffs off. 当我走进来和埃里克·洛德交谈时，我摘下了他的手铐
I said, "We're not gonna need these, are we Erik?" 我说，“我们不需要这些，是不是埃里克？”
"No, sir." I said, "Okay, let's get them off." “不，先生” 我说，“好吧，我们把它们取下来”
He'd look at ya, and you could tell he was in charge. 他会看着你，然后你会知道他是负责人
Joe Kenda asked us very pointed, very specific questions 乔·肯达问了我们非常尖锐具体的问题
trying to find out whereabouts, who were we with. 试图问出我们在哪里，和谁在一起
「埃里克·洛德中士，美国陆军（前任）」
I mean, just about every single detail he could have imagined, that day. 我的意思是，他能想象出的几乎那天的每个细节
I was smoking like a freight train. I was nervous. 我很紧张，拼命抽烟
We left work, and Darlene says she wanted to go out and have some fun. 我们下班了，达琳说她想出去找点乐子
And so, I said, "Yeah, sure." You know. 于是，我说，“没问题”你懂的
"Uh, I'll take you to B Street." “呃，我带你去B街”
Robinson was dancing with Darlene, 罗宾逊和达琳跳舞
and, you know, was having a good time. 而且，你知道，玩得很开心
Darlene danced with a couple of the guys in the bar, 达琳和酒吧里的几个家伙跳舞
and I said, "Okay. It's time to go." 于是我说，“好吧，该走了”
And she said, "No, I'm not leaving." 接着她说，“不，我不走”
I said, "Yeah, you are, 'cause I'm you're ride. I'm responsible for you." 我说，“是的，你是，因为是我载你来的，我对你负责”
And we kinda got into it a little bit. 我们有点小争执
And there was a guy at the bar that she was drinking with. 酒吧里有一个人和她一起喝酒
Darlene doesn't introduce him, so he doesn't get a name. 达琳没有介绍他，所以没有他的名字
But Lord describes him as a young GI, doesn't know him, 但洛德说他像个年轻的退伍军人，不了解他
never seen him before. 之前从未见过他
You can usually pick a soldier out. 你能看出来当兵的
Just by the, you know, the way they walk. 就凭，你知道，他们走路的方式
By the way they carry themselves. 通过他们的举止
And he remembers looking at this guy, 他记得看着这家伙
and he thought he was unusual-looking. 他觉得他长得很不寻常
Okay, what does that mean? 好吧，这是什么意思？
The person that I saw had beady eyes, you know? 我看到的那个人有一双泡泡眼，你知道吗？
It's very hard to translate someone's impression of a body part 要翻译他对某个身体部位的印象是非常困难的
when you really don't know what he's talking about. 当你真的不知道某人在说什么的时候
What means beady eyes to him may mean something else to you. 对他来说意味着泡泡眼，对你来说可能意味着别的
She says, "He'll give me a ride." 她说，“他会载我一程的”
I said, "We have to make formation." 我说，“我们必须组队返回”
You know, there's no way around it. 你知道，这是没有办法的
You know, and it was getting late. 你知道，当时已经很晚了
And she says, "No, don't worry about it." 接着，她说，"不，别担心"
"I'll be there." Last time I ever saw her. “我会去的”，这是我最后一次见她
We, of course, considered that from the very beginning, 当然，我们从一开始就考虑到
that the killer in this process is probably military. 这个手法的凶手大概是军人
That's the most likely scenario. 这是最有可能的情况
To think that, even then, they knew that it was possibly a soldier, 想想看，即使那时，他们也知道可能是一名士兵
um, so somebody who you're supposed to be able to trust, 嗯，你应该可以信任的人
um, and work alongside with. 嗯，在一起工作的人
As a special agent for Army CID, I didn't want to give up on that. 作为陆军刑事调查局的特别探员，我不想放弃这一点
In 2017, the technology called phenotyping, 在2017年，被称为表型的技术
that was the most advanced DNA technology we could do at that time. 是我们当时能做的最先进的DNA技术
Early in 2017, I came across this company called Parabon. 2017年初，我来到了一家名为帕拉邦的公司
And I saw that they had the ability to take DNA 我发现他们有能力提取DNA
and identify, with a certain probability, what color eyes this person might have, 并以一定的概率识别出这个人可能是什么颜色的眼睛
what skin tone they might have. 他们可能是什么肤色
We learned when we got the phenotype, 当我们得到表型时，我们了解到
the individual that the DNA belonged to was a white male. DNA所属的个体是一名白人男性
Northern, western European descent. 北欧、西欧血统
Brown hair, hazel eyes. 棕色头发，淡褐色眼睛
The evolution I was so fondly looking forward to, 我所期待的进展
has in fact happened. 事实上已经发生了
The ghost is alive. 幽灵还活着
We have Sergeant Lord, 我们有洛德中士
the last man to see Darlene Krashoc alive. 最后一个见到达琳·克拉肖克活着的人
At the time, Erik was trying his best to convince this girl to come out of this bar. 当时，埃里克正竭尽全力说服这个女孩走出这家酒吧
It wasn't enough. He got tired of that, and he left. 这还不够，他厌倦了，就离开了
And then, uh, next day she didn't show up. 然后，呃，第二天她没有出现
And... You know, I was... 然后...，你知道，我...
I said, "Okay, maybe... She'd been drinking." 我说，“好吧，也许……她一直在喝酒”
I said, "Let's give her some time." 我说，“给她点时间吧”
And then we had found out that there was a girl found. A girl's body was found. 然后我们发现有个女孩的尸体被发现了
I said, "Oh, my God! That's it. That's her." 我说，“哦，我的天！就是这样，就是她”
And, literally just... Whole world just caved in. 而且，实际上是...整个世界都崩塌了
Erik had some degree of survivor guilt. It's common. 埃里克有某种程度幸存者负疚感，这很正常
People blame themselves for something they didn't do, 人们为他们没有做的事情责怪自己
that resulted in terrible things happening to someone. 这导致了可怕的事情发生在某人身上
You know, the fact that, um, I was Darlene's ride that night, 你知道，事实上，嗯，那天晚上是我载的达琳
and I left her behind, I... Um. 后来没管她，我... 嗯
I should've pushed her in the car. 我本该把她推上车的
And why I didn't. 为什么我没有
You know, it's, uh... Hard to deal with. 你知道，这是，呃... 很难处理
One little motion, I could've changed... 只要一个小动作，我就可以改变...
I wouldn't be here right now talking to you. 我现在就不会和你在这里说话
Met a lot of people I didn't want to meet. 遇到很多我不想见的人
And in this case, that much rage, it's not unlikely 在这种情况下，如此愤怒
that the suspect also has some kind of marks or injuries on them. 可能嫌疑人身上也有某种痕迹或受伤
「布莱恩·里兹侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役）」
So when we're interviewing people, we're gonna ask and we're gonna look 所以当我们询问别人时，我们会问会看
to see if they have any kind of marks on them. 他们身上有没有什么痕迹
And then they said, "Take your shirt off." 然后他们说，“脱下你的衬衫”
He's perfectly clean, doesn't have a mark on him. 他非常干净，身上没有任何痕迹
We still take blood and hair from him, with his consent. 经他同意，我们从他身上采集了血液和毛发
They looked at my teeth. Actually took bite impressions. 他们看了我的牙齿，实际上是取牙印
It was very involved. 工作非常投入
The story Erik Lord tells is perfectly reasonable. 埃里克·洛德讲的故事非常合理
The best person to confirm that story is Tim Robinson. 蒂姆·罗宾逊是这个故事的最好证明人
Because he was there too. 因为他也在场
So I go next door, to where Mr. Robinson is being interrogated by somebody else. 然后我去了隔壁房间，罗宾逊在那儿正被其他人审问
Tim and Erik provided very consistent information 蒂姆和埃里克提供的信息非常一致
about their association with Darlene on that night. 关于那天晚上他们和达琳的事
Everything is going along swimmingly in this interrogation. 审讯进行得很顺利
Then we asked him to take off his shirt. 然后我们让他脱下衬衫
And he is covered in scratches. 他浑身都是抓痕
He has them on his back, his chest, and his arm. 他的背部、胸部和手臂上都有
Mr. Robinson, you suddenly have some serious explaining to do. 罗宾逊先生，你得郑重解释一下
He's got scratches all over him. 他全身都是抓痕
Well, Timmy, where'd you get those? 好吧，蒂米，你的抓痕是从哪来的？
「乔·肯达警督」
He's one of the last to see her. He's got some marks. 他是最后见到她的人之一，他身上有些印迹
「布莱恩·里兹侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役）」
This is starting to look pretty good. 这开始看起来不错了
Robinson gets very upset. 罗宾逊非常沮丧
He knows the Army has a habit of hitting you over the head with a sledgehammer 他知道军队有一个习惯，他们会用大锤敲你的头
when you get accused of a crime. 当你被指控犯罪时
I looked at him and asked him, "Can you explain the scratches and marks all over you?" 我看着他问，“你能解释一下身上的抓痕和印迹？”
And Robinson said, "I know this girl, 罗宾逊说，“我认识这个女孩”
and I went to see her that night and all these marks came from her." “那天晚上我去看她，所有这些痕迹都来自她”
Well... 哇...
Something you don't hear everyday, but there are people who do that sort of thing. 这不是你每天都能听到的，但确实有人在做这样的事
He's in a relationship with a girl who gets a little physical. 他和谈恋爱一个女孩有点肢体冲突
His story panned out. 他的故事得到了证实
I still take hair and blood samples from him. 我仍从他身上采集了头发和血液样本
And I ask to look at his teeth. 我要求看一下他的牙齿
When I do look at his teeth, 当我看到他的牙齿时
they in no way match the bite mark evidence we have. 它们与我们掌握的咬痕完全不符
So Mr. Robinson has an alibi. 罗宾逊先生有不在场证明
At this point in the investigation, 调查至此
when your leads are just running out 你的线索断了
and you don't have anything, you start to reach. 什么都没有，你得扩大范围
In this particular case, 在这种特殊情况下
the victim is in a nightclub involving perhaps as many as 100 people. 受害者在一家可能有上百人的夜总会
It's a very difficult thing to analyze, after the fact. 事后，是一件很难分析的事情
To think that a bartender was going to remember an individual 想想酒保会记住某个人
that just walked up, grabbed a drink, went out and danced. 他只是走上前，喝了一杯，然后出去跳舞
Trying to identify an individual at a bar is a very daunting task. 在酒吧试图确定一个人是非常困难的
As a homicide detective, you engage in a process of elimination. 作为一名凶杀案侦探，你参与了整个摸排过程
This was 1987. No cellphones. 这是1987年，没有手机
No surveillance cameras. 没有监控摄像头
This is old-fashioned gumshoe detective work, 这是老式的侦探工作
relying on people's limited memories. 依靠人们有限的记忆
People who had been drinking for six or seven hours. 喝了六七个小时酒的人
It makes this very, very difficult. 调查变得非常非常困难
The case file is every document 案卷是所有文件
associated in any way to the event in question. 任何与事件相关联的
All police reports, the autopsy report, laboratory examination results, the list goes on. 所有警方报告、尸检报告、实验室检查结果、名单等等
Anyone can pick up and learn everything that needs to be known 任何人都可以了解有关此次
about this investigation. 调查的所有信息
That is a case file. 这就是案卷
The 30-year anniversary of Darlene's death was on March 17, 2017. 2017年3月17日是达琳30周年忌日
「杰西卡·维尔特里，美国陆军刑事调查局特别探员」
With the DNA composite sketch, we got a reward approved for $10,000 通过DNA合成草图，我们获得了一万美元的奖金
for any information leading to the identity, arrest, and conviction 表彰对破案提供有用身份信息，逮捕并定罪
for the person responsible for the death of Darlene. 对达琳之死负有责任的人
The Parabon snapshot... 帕拉邦快照...
Can give us predictions. Ethnicity, race, hair and eye color. 可以给我们预测，民族、种族、头发和眼睛的颜色
The first they one they give you is at age 22, 你拿着22岁的照片
and then you can do a photo enhancement 然后对你的照片进行渲染
「吉姆·艾沙姆侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
for, uh, the same person at age 50. 成为同一个人50岁时候的样子
That's really when it kinda opened the door. 就在那时，它真的打开了大门
It's the 26th of March, 那是3月26日
1987. 1987年
Nine days in. 9天之后
After all of this frustration, all of this effort, 在经历了这么多挫折和努力之后
that's gotten us nowhere, 我们一无所获
suddenly, out of the blue, a lightning bolt arrives. 突然，出乎意料，一道闪电来了
Army CID, they call me, they say, "We have this individual in custody, 陆军刑事调查局，他们打电话给我，说，“我们拘留了这个人”
his name is Brian Jackson. “他的名字叫布莱恩·杰克逊”
He is charged with some sexual assault offenses." “他被指控犯有一些性侵罪”
And he says that he's responsible for the death of our victim. 他说他对受害者的死亡负有责任
Well, hallelujah, there is a God. 哇，哈利路亚，上帝
We're on our way. 我们这就过去
When CID starts a little bit of their investigation, 当刑事调查局开始一点点调查时
we find out that, yes, he has a truck. 我们发现他确实有一辆卡车
We believe that she was transported in a truck. 我们认为她是被卡车运来的
The Army has the ability to search 军队有办法搜查他们的车辆
people's vehicles without their consent. 在未经人们同意的情况下
We don't. But they do. 我们不行，他们可以
They searched his truck. 他们搜查了他的卡车
Guess what? There's a coat hanger in the truck. 你猜怎么着？卡车里有个衣架
We have physical evidence that could match 我们有物证可以匹配
what was used in this crime. 这起犯罪中使用的东西
We have him making these statements. 我们让他做了这些陈述
He's active duty military. 他是现役军人
He's charged with sexual assault. 他被指控性侵
Everything says the stars are coming into alignment. 似乎一切都顺理成章
That this very well is our guy. 这像是我们要找的人
I go there. 我到了那儿
And everybody and his brother begins to show up. 每个人包括他的兄弟都到场了
The Staff Judge Advocate General for Fort Carson is there. 卡森堡的检察总长在那里
The Commanding General of the 4th Infantry Division is there. 第4步兵师的指挥官在那里
The Chief Judge of the court is there. 法院首席法官在那里
And of course, all heads turn towards me. 当然，所有人都转向我
When I first meet Brian Jackson, he's well-aware of how much trouble he's in. 我首次见到布莱恩·杰克逊时，他很清楚自己有多麻烦
He's gonna be a nervous wreck, We'll see where this goes. 他会精神崩溃的，让我们拭目以待
Brian Jackson says he's responsible for the death of Darlene Krashoc. 布莱恩·杰克逊说他要为达琳·克拉肖克的死负责
「乔·肯达警督」
He has some promising attributes. 他有一些很有前途的特质
He's in custody for sexual assault. 他因性侵被拘留
This is a sexual assault crime. 这是一起性侵犯罪
That fits. 这点符合
He's made some veiled statements 他做了一些隐晦的陈述
about how he's probably responsible 他很可能要负责
for Darlene Krashoc's death. 为达琳·克拉肖克的死
Does that add up to proof beyond a reasonable doubt? 这些加起来能排除合理怀疑吗？
No. 不会
It rises to the level of further inquiry. 需要更进一步的调查
So, Jackson, he's been in the Army 12 years. 杰克逊已经在军队服役了12年
He's an infantry guy. 他是个步兵
He is married. 已婚
Jackson is currently charged 杰克逊目前被起诉
with two counts of sexual assault 有两项性侵指控
against female soldiers in his company. 针对他连队的女兵
He is in the trouble of his life. 他正处于人生的困境中
That can lead people to say things that otherwise aren't true. 这会导致人们编一些谎话
Looking for leverage, looking for a way out, looking for something. 寻找筹码，寻找出路，寻找什么
Turn out, Mr. Jackson is precisely that person. 事实证明，杰克逊正是这样一个人
Lots of things about him that he needs to explain, for sure. 他肯定有很多事需要解释
Let's talk about it. 让我们来谈谈
"Do you know Darlene Krashoc?" “你认识达琳·克拉肖克吗？”
"Well, no, I don't really know her." “嗯，不，我真的不认识她”
"But you say you are responsible for her death. “但你说你要为她的死负责”
Why would you say that?" “为什么你会那么说”
"Well, I just think if I would have been there..." “嗯，我只是想如果我当时在那里……”
And he wanders off in this weird, sort of, discussion. 他在叙述中有点漫不经心
And you begin to realize that this guy is trying to use 然后你开始意识到这个家伙试图利用
the murder of Darlene Krashoc 达琳·克拉肖克被谋杀
to show him mercy in his situation. 对他的处境表示怜悯
Had he been at the bar, he would have prevented 如果他在酒吧，他会阻止
Darlene Krashoc from being killed. 免于达琳·克拉肖克被杀
And because she was killed, he feels responsible for that. 因为她被杀了，他觉得应该对此负责
Oh, please. 哦，拜托
What's his alibi? Where was he at the night that this happened? 他有不在场证明吗？事发那晚他在哪里？
「拉里·马丁，检调办公室主任（退役）」
Well, the alibi just totally threw him out of... Out of the water there. 嗯，不在场证明让他完全...完全不知所措
He couldn't have killed Darlene. 他不可能杀了达琳
He wasn't even near Shuffles that night. 那天晚上他甚至都不在舒夫勒附近
Mr. Jackson is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, 杰克逊先生不是最聪明的人
and he's reaching for any straw that he can get hold of 他在找任何他能抓到的稻草
to provide him some mercy from the system. 从司法制度中给他一些宽恕
We take blood, we take hair. 我们采集血液，我们采集头发
We also look at his teeth. 我们还看了他的牙齿
His teeth no way match her bite marks. 他的牙齿与她的咬痕完全不匹配
He's not the guy we want for Darlene Krashoc. 他不是我们想要的达琳·克拉肖克案的那个人
He's just a guy. 他只是个男人
So, this great feeling of euphoria 因此，从感觉巨大的兴奋
has turned into yet another disappointment. 变成了沮丧
That's why a murder investigation can drive you crazy. 这就是为何凶案调查会让你发疯的原因
It's so good, and then, suddenly, it's so bad. 从很好突然变得很糟糕
Uh, you're back to square one again. 呃，你又回到了原点
And at this point, we don't have a whole lot of other direction to go. 在这时，我们没有太多其它的方向
You add parts to that investigative file every day. 你每天都在案卷中增加部分内容
It begins with page one. 它从第一页开始
And before you know it, you're opening page 401. 不知不觉，你已经打开了第401页
Despite our efforts, despite everything we've done, 尽管我们付出了努力，尽管做了一切
we have been unable to identify any other suspects. 我们仍无法确定其他嫌疑人的身份
We are at a dead end. 我们已经走到了死胡同
At some point, you have to say, 某些时候，你不得不说
"For now, this investigation cannot move forward “目前，调查没有进展”
'cause there is no place for it to move. “因为没有路可走了”
It is now an inactive homicide investigation." “现在这起谋杀案已经中止调查了”
Nobody wants to quit. We want to get the answers. 没人希望退出，我们想要得到答案
「布莱恩·里兹侦探、科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役）」
I felt I had done everything in my power 我觉得我已经做了力所能及的一切
to find out who killed her. 找出是谁杀了她
And I didn't do it, I didn't find out. 我没有做成，我没能找出来
There's a price you pay for that. 你要为此付出代价
Nightmares. 糟糕透了
All sorts of fun things. 各种有趣的事情
But reality sets in. 但现实摆在面前
There are other mothers that have lost loved ones that need our attention. 还有其他失去亲人的母亲需要我们关注
Krashoc was an active-duty soldier stationed at Fort Carson. 克拉肖克是驻扎在卡森堡的现役军人
No suspect was identified. 没有找到嫌疑人
You have to tell the parents that. 你必须告诉父母
Ugly business. 令人不快的事件
Betty had a hard time. 贝蒂过得很艰难
She fell into a deep state of depression, put her under doctor's care. 她得了重度抑郁，处于医生照顾下
Like any other mother, she would just, uh... 和其他母亲一样，她只是，呃...
「保罗·克拉肖克，达琳的父亲」
cry, cried a lot. 哭，不停地哭
I just had to know, I want to know. Find him, how hard could it be? 我只是想知道，想知道找到他有多难？
「贝蒂·克拉肖克，达琳的母亲」
You know, that's me, and that's any parent. 你知道，我就是这样，任何父母都是这样
You have to understand their position. 你必须理解他们的处境
They're in an emotional nightmare that they can't wake up from, 他们正处于一场无法唤醒的梦魇中
that someone like this is walking around loose, 有这样的人四处游荡
and we don't know who he is. 我们不知道他是谁
We have no idea who he is. 我们对他一无所知
But people who commit crimes forget something 但是犯罪的人会遗忘一些事情
that's extremely important. 极其重要的事情
The police do not forgive, and they do not forget. 警察不会原谅，也不会忘记
And some day, your knee is gonna touch the ground. 总有一天，你会伏法
And on that day, 在那一天
a policeman's gonna be standing over you 警察会站在你旁边
to handcuff you and remind you of your past. 给你戴上手铐，让你想起你的过去
That's the day I always look forward to. 那是我一直期待的一天
We are going to identify the ghost. 我们要确认那个幽灵的身份
In the case of Darlene Krashoc, 在达琳·克拉肖克的案子里
there is no one left to investigate. 已经没有人可以调查了
I would come into work early every morning. 我每天早上很早就开始上班
I'd make a cup of coffee. 我会泡一杯咖啡
「乔·肯达警督」
I'd walk to the doorway of the cold-case library. 我会走到悬案档案室的门口
And I'd look at every book. 我会看每一本卷宗
And then, I would beat myself up for being a dumb 然后，我会因为自己是个傻瓜而自责
who doesn't know who killed those people. 不知道是谁杀了那些人
Then I'd go sit down and start looking over reports of the current homicide cases. 然后我会坐下来浏览眼前的凶案报告
I carried on after we closed the active status 案件中止后我坚持工作
of the Krashoc case 克拉肖克案件
until 1996, September 1st. 直到1996年9月1日
Then I returned. 然后我回来了
Life goes on, retirements happen. 生活在继续，我退休了
Things in the country change, new Presidents are elected. 这个国家的情况发生了变化，选出了新的总统
But you never forget. I never did. 但你永远不会忘记，我从来没有
And I was still always hopeful 我仍然充满希望
that someday something would come to light 总有一天，事情会真相大白
in the Krashoc case by some method or means. 克拉肖克案会以某种方法或者手段
And resurrection could be had finally. 最终被激活
「制片人」这个案子似乎没有实质性的进展，你有多沮丧？
You know, I just felt like nobody was doing anything. 你知道，我只是觉得没人在做什么
I just felt like everybody had forgotten her. 我只是觉得，每个人都把她忘了
「贝蒂·克拉肖克，达琳的母亲」
But, uh, I've got boxes of e-mails. 但是，呃，我有电子邮箱
I would e-mail every detective. 我会给每个侦探发电子邮件
I'd type up letters. 我会打印信件
I even sent letters to the President of the United States. 我甚至写信给美国总统
You never forget, and it never goes away. 你从未忘记，它从未消失
「保罗·克拉肖克，达琳的父亲」
Has he ever done it again? Has he hurt somebody else's child? 他又干过吗？ 他伤害别的孩子了吗？
Has he destroyed somebody else's family? 他毁了别人的家庭吗？
Betty, bless her heart, 贝蒂，保佑她
she was running interference for Darlene 她在为达琳奔走交涉
and making sure that it was getting done. 并确保它完成
We decided we'd come back to Colorado. 我们决定回到科罗拉多州
We did flyers. 我们发了传单
We had T-shirts made up with her picture on it and hats. 我们有印着她照片的T恤和帽子
I even wrote a poem. 我还写了一首诗
"In the vision of man, but it's just deceit. “在人的视野里，但那只是欺骗”
For there's a demon on your streets. “因为你的街道上有个幽灵”
You may know his face. I know it well. “你可能见过他，我很了解”
He left behind some clues to tell. “他留下了一些线索”
I'm only waiting for the clock to chime, “我只是在等钟声响起”
for soon, he'll pay for his heinous crime. “很快，他将为自己的滔天罪行付出代价”
I know the secret, I know the truth." “我知道秘密，我知道真相”
「吉姆·艾沙姆侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
The most important thing you can take away from a crime scene 你能从犯罪现场带走的最重要的东西
is the physical evidence. 是物证
Well, the crime scene investigators, 犯罪现场调查人员
even back then, had specialized training in collecting that evidence. 即使在当时，也接受过收集证据的专门训练
Now we have the benefit of video and technology 现在我们有视频和技术的优势
「约瑟夫·索莫斯基，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
and getting into people's social media and cell phone accounts, 可以进入人们的社交媒体和手机账户
that actually help solve cases. 这实际上有助于破案
But Joe Kenda, especially, came from an era where you had to find evidence. 但乔·肯达，尤其是来自一个你必须找到证据的时代
Those guys are absolute heroes. 那些家伙是绝对的英雄
At the initial onset of the investigation, 在调查的最初阶段
「杰西卡·维尔特里，美国陆军刑事调查局特别探员」
they collected all the evidence 他们收集了所有的证据
maybe, at that time, for blood typing 也许，那时是为了测血型
and to see what the future might bring. 看看未来会带来什么
It is fascinating, because they didn't know 这很有意思，因为他们不知道
what they were preserving it for. 保存它的目的是什么
Um, it just goes to show the foresight and the dedication 嗯，它显示出有远见和敬业精神
to, to advancements that were coming. 为即将到来的进步
And knowing that we still had that evidence, I just, I felt very confident 知道我们仍然有证据，我感到非常有信心
that there was a chance that this case could get solved. 这个案子有可能得到解决的机会
The suspect's DNA profile had been entered in CODIS, 嫌疑人的DNA图谱已输入DNA数据库系统
a nationwide, uh, system. 一个全国性的系统
And as of 2018, there had been no matches. 截至2018年，还没有匹配
Which told me that since 1987, if no one's DNA 这告诉我，自1987年以来，如果没有人的DNA
had been entered into the system, it was very unlikely, 被输入到系统，是很不可能的
and getting less likely by the second, 而且，随着时间推移，越来越不可能
that that was ever gonna happen. 那是永远不会发生的
It blew me away that even though we had 让我大吃一惊，尽管我们在
a really solid DNA profile in the national DNA index, 国家DNA索引中有一个非常可靠的DNA图谱
we still didn't have a suspect. 但我们仍然没有嫌疑人
After the phenotyping was done, 在表型分析完成后
we got a visual depiction of what the shape of the face may look like. 我们得到了面部形状的视觉描述
Social media just blew up. 社交媒体炸开了锅
We were getting calls from other countries, 我们接到来自其他国家的电话
based on seeing stuff on Facebook, 基于在Facebook上看到的东西
saying, "Maybe I know this person." 说，“可能我认识这个人”
Social media brought us tons of leads. 社交媒体给我们带来了大量线索
Unfortunately, not a lot of them really led anywhere. 遗憾的是，没有多少有用的东西
You know, it's disappointing. 你知道，这很令人失望
That composite sketch, I had it posted on my desk. 那张合成草图，我把它贴在了桌子上
Just, I stared at it every day. 只是，我每天都盯着它
Like, who is this guy, where is he now, is he alive? 比如，这家伙是谁，他现在在哪里，他还活着吗？
I remember The New York Times article 我记得《纽约时报》的文章
about a cold case that was solved with genetic genealogy. 关于一个用基因谱系学解决的悬案
So I started to follow how it was being applied in law enforcement. 因此，我开始关注它是如何在执法中应用的
With the popularity of people testing their own DNA 随着人们检测自己DNA的普及
to find out where they're from... 找出他们来自哪里...
more and more people are entering their DNA into these databases. 越来越多的人将他们的DNA输入到这些数据库中
What forensic genealogists can do 法医家谱学家能做什么
is start to trace back that family tree, 开始追溯家谱
and see what ancestors they have in common, 看看他们的祖先有什么共同点
and the law enforcement can, kind of, work with the genealogists. 执法部门可以与家谱学家合作
They find out where the DNA intersects 他们发现了DNA的交叉点
between this family member with a shared DNA 这个拥有共同DNA的家庭成员之间
and the individual that you're trying to identify. 以及你试图识别的那个人
I reached out to Parabon, 我联系了帕拉邦
who had previously done the phenotyping. 他们之前做过表型分析
So, the genealogy, it was new for their company, 家谱对他们的公司来说是新的
and they said, "We'll run it through the database once a week. 他们说，“我们将每周在数据库中运行一次”
And if get something that looks workable, we'll reach out." “如果得到一些看起来可行的东西，我们会联系你”
It was probably about a year. 大概一年左右
And that whole time, I'm just like, "I know it's coming." 一直以来，我都在想，“我知道它会来的”
It was 2019 when I got the call. 我接到电话时是2019年
"We've got a possible match, “我们有一个可能的匹配”
a familial match, um, with the suspect. “一个家庭匹配，嗯，与嫌疑人匹配”
It equates to about a third cousin." “大概相当于一个第三代表兄弟”
And so this is something that we can work. It's workable. 所以这是我们可以做的，是可行的
Agent Veltri called me and said, 韦尔特里探员打电话给我说
"We have a match to the unknown individual number one “我们找到了个与一号身份不明的人匹配的人”
in Darlene Krashoc's case." “在达琳·克拉肖克案里的”
I remember, I looked at Detective Somosky, 我记得我看着索莫斯基警探
and I just told him. I said, "I think we got our guy." 我只是告诉他，我说，“我想我们找到了我们的人”
And he said, "Are you sure?" 他说，“你确定吗？”
And I said, "I'm not sure, but the science is sure." 我说，“我不确定，但科学是肯定的”
The very next communication was, 接下来的沟通是，
"Hey, we'd like to brief you on the results." “嘿，我们想向您简要介绍一下结果”
I mean, I remember being in the office. 我的意思是，我记得当时在办公室
Jim was on the line. 吉姆在线上
I had a sign on my door, like, "Do not disturb." 我的门上有一块牌子，上面写着“请勿打扰”
Um, and we're just all sitting there. 嗯，我们都坐在那里
For 32 years at CSPD, 在科罗拉多斯普林斯警局工作了32年
I've been trying to identify a ghost, 我一直在试着揪出一个幽灵
and, finally, after advances in science, 最后，在科学进步...
willingness to pursue, 紧追不舍之后
that ghost that's out there running around loose... 那个四处游荡的幽灵...
he has a name. This is what we've been looking for. 他有个名字，这就是我们一直在寻找的
「科罗拉多调查局，北硅路79号」
「制片人」那个报道上的名字是什么？
Michael Whyte. 迈克尔·怀特 「杰西卡·维尔特里，美国陆军刑事调查局特别探员」
Michael Whyte. 迈克尔·怀特 「吉姆·艾沙姆侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
Michael Whyte was tentatively identified from the genetic genealogy. 迈克尔·怀特是从基因谱系中初步鉴定出来的 「约瑟夫·索莫斯基，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
His name is Michael David Whyte. 他的名字叫迈克尔·大卫·怀特 「乔·肯达警督」
「制片人」他的名字以前出现在这个案卷里吗？
We'd never seen the name Michael Whyte come up in that case report. 我们从未在案卷里看到过迈克尔·怀特
I'd never seen the name before. 我以前从未见过这个名字
All the people that we interviewed, the suspect's name never surfaced. 我们询问过的所有人，嫌犯名字从未出现过 「迈克·内斯特探员，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局（退役）」
2,000 pages... 两千页...
and Michael David Whyte never appears. 迈克尔·大卫·怀特从未露面
We never heard of him, nor did anyone else. 我们从未听说过他，其他人也没有
Who is this guy? 这家伙是谁？
In doing some research, we confirm that he was a soldier. 通过一些调查，我们确认他是一名士兵
He was assigned to Fort Carson. 他被分配到卡森堡
During that time... 在那期间...
and public records did confirm, he lived 公开记录确认他还活着
not far from where Darlene's body was found. 离达琳尸体被发现的地方不远
He has zero criminal record. 他没有犯罪记录
He got a parking ticket once. 他有过一次违章停车罚单
For all intents and purposes, he is Mr. Boring Suburbia. 总而言之，他是个无聊的郊区先生
We need to know for sure. 我们需要确定
We need to surveil this guy. 我们需要监视这个家伙
We knew that he was stable. 我们知道他情况稳定
Married, with a home in an affluent suburb in Denver. 已婚，有一个家在丹佛的一个富裕郊区
And working in a pretty good job 有一份不错的工作
in the telecommunications industry. 在电信行业
We needed to get ahold of DNA to confirm 我们需要获得DNA来确认
that he was the person matching 他就是匹配的人
unknown suspect number one's DNA. 与一号未知嫌疑人的DNA匹配
A fugitive team did sit up on Michael Whyte. 一个临时小组盯上了迈克尔·怀特
These are guys that do this for a living. 这些人就是干这个的
So you'd never know you're getting followed. 你不会知道自己被跟踪
They just keep tailing off, trading off. 他们保持交替尾随
They're good at it. 他们很擅长
So they go, and they start surveilling him. 他们出发了，开始监视他
And this particular day, he's out running errands. 这一天，他出去办事了
But he pulls into a hamburger place 但他把车开进一家汉堡店
to get lunch. 去吃午饭
He sits there, he enjoys his lunch. 他坐在那里，享用着午餐
And he has a red Solo cup. 他有个红色塑料杯
He drinks from the cup. 他用杯子喝水
The cup is now the focus. 杯子成了焦点
That's gonna have his saliva on that cup. 那杯子上会有他的唾液
What's he gonna do with it? 他会怎么处理它？
He gets up and leaves. 他起身离开
So we didn't need a warrant. 所以我们不需要搜查令
He technically has no privacy rights to that piece of trash 从技术上讲，他对垃圾没有隐私权
he's just discarded. 他刚刚丢弃的
Some agents came down from Fort Carson 一些特工从卡森堡下来
after, uh, Agent Veltri called them. 在维尔特里探员打电话给他们之后
Jim and I transferred the evidence to them. 吉姆和我把证据转交给了他们
The scientists working the case communicated with us, 负责这个案子的科学家和我们联系过
"We're gonna work this 24x7 until it's... Until it's resolved." “我们要全天候工作直到...，直到结果出来”
There were some tense moments, 有一些紧张的时刻
some dallying, if you will. 一些拖延，如果你愿意这样说
But again, you know, witnesses lie, 但是，你知道，证人撒谎
I've even had victims lie, 我甚至让受害者撒过谎
but one thing I've found in 32 years of law enforcement, 但在我32年的执法生涯中发现了一件事
the evidence doesn't lie. 证据不会撒谎
The results from the DNA came back in, DNA检测结果出来了
I honestly want to say two-and-a-half to three weeks, 我真的想说两周半到三周
which is, kind of, unheard of in DNA cases. 这在DNA案件中是闻所未闻的
「制片人」结果是什么？
That it was a confirmed match to unknown person number one. 与一号不明身份的人匹配
My, my, my. 我的天啊
It is him without question. 毫无疑问就是他
He is the only guy who deposited his DNA on and inside the victim in this case. 他是本案中唯一将DNA留在受害者身上的人
We were now in a position, after only 32 years, 时隔32年，我们终于有机会
to arrest Michael David Whyte for the murder and rape of Darlene Krashoc. 以强奸并谋杀达琳·克拉肖克的罪名逮捕迈克尔·大卫·怀特
It's time to go to jail, Michael. 该进监狱了，迈克尔
I remember, it was June 13th, 2019. 我记得，那是2019年6月13日
One of those days, it's kind of hard to forget as a law enforcement officer, 有一天，作为一名执法人员，我很难忘记 「吉姆·艾沙姆侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
made numerous arrests in my career, 在我的职业生涯中，我逮捕了很多人
this one, kind of, rises to the top. 这一天，有点上升到了顶峰
I called Agent Veltri and said, 我打电话给韦尔特里探员说
"The warrant's been issued for Michael Whyte's arrest." “迈克尔·怀特的逮捕令已经签发” 「约瑟夫·索莫斯基侦探，科罗拉多斯普林斯警局 」
I wanted to give them the opportunity to be there, 我想给他们一个去那里的机会
because without them, we couldn't have had that result. 因为没有他们，我们不可能有这样的结果
It was insane. We hadn't eaten, we hadn't slept. 这太疯狂了，我们没吃饭，也没睡觉
「杰西卡·维尔特里，美国陆军刑事调查局特别探员」
And then, next thing you know, 然后，接下来的事情你知道了
we're in the car, and we're heading to Denver. 我们在车里，我们前往丹佛
We met at a park in Thornton, Colorado, 我们在科罗拉多州桑顿的一个公园会面
and a plan was devised. 并制定了一个计划
The fugitive units and myself were to make contact with Mr. Whyte at his residence. 临时小组和我将在怀特先生的住所联系他
We knew that there was at least one other adult living in the house, 我们知道房子里至少还有一个成年人
identified as his spouse, and we didn't want to put anyone at risk. 确认是他的配偶，我们不想让任何人有危险
You know, this guy is a trained soldier. 你知道，这家伙是个训练有素的士兵
You know, someone is not a threat 你知道，某人不是威胁
until they're faced with being arrested 直到他们被逮捕
for a crime the committed 30 years earlier. 由于他三十年前犯下的罪行
It was a matter of knocking on the door, asking for Mr. Whyte. 只要敲开门，找怀特先生就行了
After he identified himself, 他表明身份后
our fugitive team told him that we did have arrest warrants 我们的临时小组告诉他我们有逮捕令
from the Colorado Springs Police Department. 来自科罗拉多斯普林斯警局
It was, kind of, a textbook arrest. 这是一次教科书式的逮捕
There was no fighting, no screaming. 没有打斗，没有尖叫
He said, "Okay," while he was transported in. 他说，“好的”他被押进车时
After the arrest, I went in with Detective Jim Isham 被捕后我和吉姆·艾沙姆侦探一起进去
to speak to Michael Whyte's wife. 和迈克尔·怀特的妻子谈话
His current wife was just taken off guard. 他现在的妻子简直猝不及防
She said Mr. Whyte had never laid a finger on her，there was no violence. 她说怀特先生从未碰过她一根手指头，没有过暴力
She was truly shocked. 她真的很震惊
She described Michael Whyte as her hero. 她称迈克尔·怀特是她的英雄
She told us that she had stage four esophageal cancer. 她告诉我们她患有癌症四期
And that he was her lifeline. he was everything to her. 他是她的生命线，他是她的一切
And so that was sad. That was really sad to hear. 所以这很悲哀，听到这个消息真的很难过
And also, just confusing. 也很让人困惑
'Cause this is also the same person who brutally murdered Darlene Krashoc 32 years ago. 因为这个人也是32年前残害达琳·克拉肖克的凶手
A killer looks like everybody else. what does he look like? 杀手看起来和其他人一样，他长什么样？
Like the guy behind you at the grocery store. 就像杂货店里你后面的那个人 「乔·肯达警督」
There is no profile, there is no appearance, there is none of that. 没有轮廓，也没有外貌，这些都没有
We went to the police station to get ready for the interview. 我们去了警局为询问做准备
艾莎姆侦探：我是伊莎姆警探，我叫吉姆，我在科罗拉多斯普林斯警局工作
怀特：我去年在下面是不是抢银行了，为什么事情我不知道...
艾莎姆侦探：我们可以谈谈
I observed the interview from another room. and that was, like, the first time I really laid eyes on him. 我在另一个房间观察，那是我第一次真正看到他
艾莎姆侦探：首先，你有权保持沉默
We knew that, uh, you know, this is someone 我们知道，呃，你知道，某人
who might want to try to tell his side of the story. 他可能想从他的角度来讲述这个故事
Might try to explain it away. 可能会试图解释
Person that committed this crime didn't make it through life, 犯下这起罪行的人没能侥幸一生
uh, just settling for whatever got handed to him. 呃，他只能接受别人给他的一切
约瑟夫·索莫斯基探员：先生，你现在可以跟我们说话了吗？
怀特：是的
He did waive his right to speak with us, so we started the interview. 他确实放弃了与我们交谈的权利，于是我们开始了讯问
怀特：这是怎么回事？
艾莎姆侦探：是关于我们正在调查的一个1987年的悬案
艾莎姆侦探：我和索莫斯基探员都在科罗拉多斯普林斯警局悬案组工作
怀特：悬案...
I remember him making a comment, "So old cases that haven't been solved?" 我记得他说了一句，“还没破的旧案？”
艾莎姆侦探：关于你当时的社交生活，你去俱乐部吗？
怀特：是啊，我去泡吧，我是... 我当时喝得很醉
怀特：我只是经常聚会
怀特：这是一起凶杀案，你是说我杀人了？
索莫斯基探员：你的名字出现在当时一名专业人员被谋杀的调查中
索莫斯基探员：她的名字叫达琳·克拉肖克
This is a well-educated, upper middle class man 这是一个受过良好教育的中上层阶级
who absolutely knows what he's done or what he hasn't done. 他绝对知道自己做过什么没做过什么
Um, and you don't get sat in front of a couple of detectives, 嗯，你不可能坐在几个警探面前
uh, without knowing exactly what you're there for. 却不知道你到底是来干什么的
艾莎姆侦探：你和在酒吧后搭讪不对劲的人有什么问题吗？
怀特：没有，没，我... 没有
索莫斯基探员：如果我们给你看他们当时的照片，你可能会认出他们吗？
怀特：如果他们是我认识的朋友，是的
索莫斯基探员：也许是相邻部队的某个人或类似的人，也许？
怀特：是的，如果我能经常看到他们，是的
And I remember sliding Darlene's picture on the table. 我记得把达琳的照片放在桌子上
And after a big gulp from the water, 在喝了一大口水之后
he looked at it 他看了看
with a pained expression before stating that... 带着痛苦的表情说...
怀特：她看起来像我妻子...
...she looks like his ex-wife. ...她长得像他前妻
怀特：...当时的
And he said, "But I know it's not her." 他说，“但我知道不是她”
Once I showed the picture, it seemed like he wanted 当我展示照片时，他似乎想要
to disassociate himself with the table, the picture. 使自己离开桌子和照片
怀特：她可能是通过审核或者其他方式来的，我不知道
艾莎姆侦探：好的
Once I laid Darlene's photograph on the table, 当我把达琳的照片放在桌子上时
his demeanor, kind of, changed. 他的举止有点改变了
索莫斯基探员：我们在这儿是因为...因为DNA
索莫斯基探员：DNA让我们找到了你
It was definitely an eerie feeling, watching the interview. 旁观讯问，那绝对是一种诡异的感觉
And I do remember, specifically, him saying... 我记得很清楚，特别是，他说...
怀特：你是说我和这个女孩上过床？
怀特：因为这有可能
"I had sex with lots of women, but I never killed any of them." “我和很多女人上过床，但我从没杀过她们中的任何人”
怀特：除了我老婆，任何跟我上床的人都是在酒吧里
He denied ever seeing her. 他否认见过她
怀特：我从没...和任何人上过床然后杀了他们！
Or even knowing about the murder, 甚至不知道谋杀的事
which, to me, is unbelievable. 这对我来说简直难以置信
艾莎姆侦探：这是物证
艾莎姆侦探：老实说，这是相当多的
艾莎姆侦探：这就是我们在这儿的原因
怀特：是啊，这...这是错误的，这里有点不对劲
And at that time, he opted to invoke his right to remain silent. 当时，他选择行使保持沉默的权利
And I remember standing up to leave the interview room, 我记得我站起来准备离开讯问室
and he looked at me, and he said, 他看着我说
"How do I defend myself against this?" “我该如何为自己辩护？”
I just thought to myself, 我只是在想
if someone would accuse me of this heinous crime, 如果有人指控我犯下如此滔天罪行
and I was completely innocent, 而我是完全无辜的
I wouldn't have the attitude of sipping my water 我就不会有这样的态度，一边喝水
asking, "How do I defend myself?" 一边问，“我该如何保护自己？”
Before leaving the room, the cops get impressions of Whyte's teeth. 在离开房间之前，警察得到了怀特牙齿的印模
However, it's 30-plus years since this murder happened. 然而，这起谋杀案已经过去30多年了
Teeth impressions aren't very meaningful over that period of time. 牙印在这段时间里没有太大意义
He had a pained expression on his face. 他脸上露出痛苦的表情
You could tell that he was fighting back tears. 你可以看出他在强忍泪水
It was almost a combination of extreme anguish and disbelief. 这几乎是极度痛苦和难以置信的结合
To me, it was the face of someone who worked hard 对我来说，这是一张努力的人的脸
to prevent this day from ever occurring, and here it was happening. 努力阻止这一天发生，而这一天正在发生
I'm very proud of the detectives in the Cold Case Unit, 我为悬案组的警探们感到骄傲
Isham and Somosky. 艾沙姆和索莫斯基
They took an oath. 他们宣誓过
They did what they said they would do. 他们说到做到了
It was not until after we attempted the interview, 直到我们试图面谈之后
I made the call to the family. 我给那家人打了电话
You have the defendant in custody, 你已经拘留了被告
then you tell the family. 然后你告诉那家人
And Somosky was privileged to make it. 而索莫斯基很荣幸能做到这一点
Something you don't often get to do. 一些你不常做的事情
I answered the phone. 我接了电话
He said, "Paul?" And I said, "Yes." 他说，“保罗？”，我说，“是的”
And he said, uh, "Jo Somosky." 他接着说，“呃，乔·索莫斯基”
And it was like, "Well, hello, detective. How are you doing?" 就像是，“你好，侦探，你好吗？”
He said, "I'm doing extremely well." 他说，“我做得非常好”
So, I asked him to please go to where his wife was. 然后，我请他去他妻子所在的地方
He said, "Would you get her next to you? 他说，“你能让她在你旁边吗？”
I've got something I want to tell you. “我有件事想告诉你们”
And I want you both to hear it at the same time." “我希望你们两个同时听到”
Paul said, "Come here. You've got to hear this." 保罗说，“到这儿来，你得听听”
He said, "I waited 32 years to tell you this." 他说，“告诉你这件事我等了32年”
And I told them, 我告诉他们
"The Army CID and Colorado Springs Police Department “陆军刑事调查局和科罗拉多斯普林斯警局”
have made an arrest for the homicide of their daughter, Darlene Krashoc." 逮捕了杀害他们女儿达琳·克拉肖克的凶手
And that's when we heard they've made an arrest. 然后我们听说他们已经逮捕了一个人
They got him. 他们抓到他了
And I know all they could hear was me screaming. 我知道他们能听到的只有我的尖叫声
That was the best day of my life. 那是我一生中最美好的一天
They got that sucker. 他们抓到了那家伙
I found out. 我想起来了
I was asleep on the couch. 我在沙发上睡着了
My wife came, she woke me up, 我妻子来了，她叫醒了我
I'm like, "What's going on? Why you waking me up?" 我说，“出什么事了？你为什么要叫醒我？”
And she says, "They found him! They found him!" 她说，“他们找到他了！他们找到他了！”
I said, "Who? Who did they find?" 我说，“谁啊？他们找到了谁？”
And she holds up the telephone. 她举起电话
My eyes focus on him. Oh, my God. 我的目光聚焦在他身上，天啊
That's him, with beady eyes, you know? 就是他，有泡泡眼的，你知道吗？
Those eyes have been burned in my head for, for 32 years. 那双眼睛在我脑海里烧灼了32年
I thought to myself," You son of a bitch. 我心里想，“你这个狗娘养的”
You've been sitting there all these years, and you're right there." “这些年你一直坐在那里，你就在那里”
Mr. Whyte comes across as intelligent, calm, even arrogant. 怀特给人的印象是聪明、冷静，甚至傲慢
Understands DNA. 了解DNA
Maintains, "You got the wrong guy. 坚持说，“你找错人了”
You made a terrible mistake." “你犯了一个可怕的错误”
He wants to go to trial. 他想接受庭审
Let's do it. Let's go to trial. 就这样吧，我们上法庭
I'm talking with the defense attorney, 我和辩护律师交谈
「本·霍斯泰特，埃尔帕索县副检察官」
he told me, "Michael White will consider no offers. 他告诉我，“迈克尔·怀特不考虑庭前认罪”
He doesn't... He doesn't want a deal." “他不...不想达成辩诉交易”
And I asked him, "Why?" 我问他，“为什么？”
He said, "Well, frankly, you're not getting the evidence in." 他说，“坦率地说，你没有得到证据”
Our biggest challenge in trial, without a doubt, 毫无疑问，我们在庭审中面临的最大挑战
「乔·伊登，埃尔帕索县副检察官」
was making sure that our evidence was going to be admitted. 确保我们的证据被接受
Charlie Green, who was the evidence tech at the time, 查理·格林，他是当时的取证技术人员
was no longer alive. 已经不在人世了
The coroner himself was no longer alive. 验尸官已经死了
We'd lost several other detectives. 我们失去了其他几个警探
We have to find a different way 我们得想别的办法
to have that evidence admitted at trial. 让证据在庭审中被采纳
So, we had lead detectives who were present on scene. 因此，我们派了几个当时在现场的探长
When I got a phone call from the District Attorney's office, 当我接到地方检察官办公室的电话时
I was filming episodes of American Detective at the time. 那时我正在拍摄《美国侦探》的剧集
And I told my producer, I said, "Well, that's pretty interesting. 我告诉我的制片人，我说，“嗯，这挺有意思”
We're here talking about somebody's else's case." “我们正在这里讨论别人的案子”
My mind just rolled up. 我的思绪开始运转
I'm going back to court. 我要回去上庭了
And when I testified in the trial for Michael David Whyte in June 2021... 2021年6月，当我在迈克尔·大卫·怀特的庭审中作证...
I looked at him as I walked by the defendant's table. 我走过被告席时看了他一眼
And I thought, "I've been looking for you for a long time. 我就想，“我找了你很久”
And here you are." “你在这儿了”
When I walked into that courtroom, 当我走进法庭
because of my current notoriety, 因为我的臭名气
「乔·肯达警督」
you could hear a pin drop. 你能听到针掉在地上的声音
Every head in the jury box is looking at me. 陪审团的每个人都看着我
Every head in the gallery is looking at me. 旁听席的每个人看着我
The only one not looking at me was Michael Whyte. 唯一不看我的是迈克尔·怀特
He was looking straight ahead. 他正目视前方
My nerves, really, rested with the victim's family. 受害者的家庭支撑了我的勇气
「本·霍斯泰特，埃尔帕索县副检察官」
Paul and Betty had been struggling with unanswered questions, uh, for 30-plus years. 30多年来，保罗和贝蒂一直在为未解答的问题挣扎
I think there was some concern there what was gonna happen 我想有人担心会发生什么
「保罗·克拉肖克，达琳的父亲」
when I first laid eyes on him. 当我第一次看到他时
And we did lock eyes. 我们确实对视了
And he knew exactly who we were. 他很清楚我们是谁
制片人：见到迈克尔·怀特是什么感觉？
Hmm. 嗯哼
「贝蒂·克拉肖克，达琳的母亲」
Really... 真的...
Nothing. I don't feel anything for him. 没什么，我对他没有任何感觉
I don't. 我没有
制片人：你和他有过眼神交流吗？
Oh, yeah. Oh, yes, indeed. 哦，是的，的确如此
Yes, I did. 是的，我有过
制片人：你在想什么？
Mmm. I don't wanna say. 嗯，我不想说
I went and took the stand and explained, 我站在证人席上阐述说
at the time this crime occurred, 在这起犯罪发生时
I was a sergeant and supervisor in Homicide. 我曾是凶杀案的警长和主管
Joe's primary role in all of this 乔在这件事中的主要角色
was to help paint the jury a picture 是为了让陪审团明白
「乔·伊登，埃尔帕索县副检察官」
of what detective work looked like back at the time. 当时的侦探工作是什么样子的
Joe testified that DNA was in its infancy, 乔作证说，DNA还处于起步阶段
and they didn't know exactly what it was. 他们并不知道它到底是什么
They just knew that there was a chance that this futuristic technology 他们只知道那是个机会，这项未来技术
might one day exist, and they wanted to be careful 也许有一天会存在，他们得保持谨慎
in the event that they would be able to use that information. 那样的话他们能够用得上这些信息
We then proceeded to discuss the tagging and marking of evidence. 然后我们开始讨论证据的分类和标注问题
How and where it was recovered, and by whom. 是怎么找到的，在哪里找到的，是谁找到的
And by what method was it marked and eventually restored. 它是用什么方法标记并最终恢复的
He was able to illustrate for the jury 他向陪审团展示了
the level of care Charlie Green was notorious for. 查理·格林人所共知的谨慎程度
Charlie Green wasn't somebody 查理·格林不是那种
who was known for making mistakes or cutting corners. 以犯错误或投机取巧而闻名的人
I had no difficulty testifying to this, 我毫不费力地证明了这一点
because I was confident we had done the right thing, 因为我确信我们做了正确的事情
because we always do the right thing. 我们总是做正确的事情
And following that testimony, I was excused. 听完证词后，我被允许离开了
And we got some pushback from the judge. 我们也遭到过法官的驳回
I think Ben and I lost years of our lives 我想，本和我用了多年的时间
wondering what that ruling was going to be. 想知道裁决结果会是什么
There was a lot of stress going into that bench conference. 参加那次庭前会议的压力很大
While the judge was considering that, it was eerie quiet. 当法官考虑这个问题的时候，安静得可怕
If the judge had ruled that those items of evidence 如果法官裁定将这些证据
would have been excluded from the trial, 排除在审判之外
that would have been the end of the trial. 那审判就结束了
And when he admitted that first item of evidence, 当他认可第一项证据时
I took my first relaxed breath. 我第一次松了口气
I think we were pretty certain that Michael Whyte would take the stand, 我想我们很确定迈克尔·怀特会表明立场
just because there's an arrogance about him. 只是因为他的傲慢
And when he took the stand, he was adamant 当他表明立场时，他态度坚决
that he didn't remember Darlene Krashoc. 他不记得达琳·克拉肖克
I found that hard to believe because this case was all over the media in 1987. 我觉得难以置信，因为这个案子在1987年被媒体报道得沸沸扬扬
He testified on the stand, "I did not kill Darlene Krashoc." 他在证人席作证，“我没有杀达琳·克拉肖克”
He didn't know anything about it. And I thought, 他对此一无所知，我想，
"Really? Fort Carson, and you didn't hear? “真的吗？卡森堡，你没听说吗？
Mmm. No." “嗯，不”
Michael Whyte's statement to his attorney, essentially, was, 迈克尔·怀特对他律师的陈述基本上是
that it's possible he could have come in contact with her, 他可能和她有过接触
and that he would have sexual encounters 会发生性关系
sometimes in the bathroom of the bar, 有时在酒吧的洗手间
sometimes in his car. 有时在他的车里
Their theory was that this DNA had all gotten on Darlene 他们的说法是，DNA是达琳身上采集的
through transferred DNA. 通过转移的DNA
But that evidence came in the form of the clothes hanger 但证据是以衣架的形式出现
that was wrapped around her neck and mouth, 衣架缠绕在她脖子和嘴上
and fashioned like a horse bridle. 形状像马的缰绳
The cigarette buds, obviously, that were found at the scene of the crime. 显然，在犯罪现场发现的烟蒂
Certainly, there's no good answer for Michael Whyte on the cigarette butts. 当然，迈克尔·怀特在烟头问题没办法说清楚
The defense tried to argue that this was transfer DNA. 辩方试图辩称这是转移DNA
That theory is debunked when you combine that 他们的说法被驳斥了，当你把这些说法和
with the three cigarette buds that are found next to her body 尸体旁边发现的三个烟头结合起来
Because the person who randomly decided to rape and kill her, 因为那个随机决定强奸并杀害她的人
without leaving any of their own DNA, 没有留下任何自己的DNA
wouldn't have had Michael Whyte's three cigarette buds from that night. 不会有迈克尔·怀特那晚的三个烟蒂
In 1987, nobody knew what the hell DNA was. 1987年，没有人知道DNA到底是什么
So there was no way that they could make that argument 所以他们不可能提出这样的理由
that somebody was trying to frame him by placing his cigarette buds at the scene of the crime, 有人试图把他的烟头放在犯罪现场陷害他
because they would have had no way of knowing that DNA was even a technology 因为他们根本无法知道DNA
that the police could have investigated at that time. 是警方当时可以调查的一项技术
In a case like this, obviously, one of our biggest hurdles 在这样的情况下，很明显，我们最大的障碍之一
is that we don't know exactly how this all went down. 是我们不知道这一切到底是怎么发生的
Because this investigation has been completed, 因为这次调查已经结束了
we are now in a position to say 我们现在可以说
on the 17th of March, 1987, St. Patrick's Day, 1987年3月17日，圣帕特里克节
Darlene decides, "I'm going out tonight to Shuffles with two friends." 达琳决定，“我今晚要和两个朋友去舒弗勒”
We can say, with some degree of certainty... 我们可以肯定地说...
that when Mr. Whyte sees her, he dances with her. 当怀特先生看到她时，他会和她跳舞
Lord is a guy that remembers things. 洛德是个记性很好的人
And he sees the picture of Michael Whyte, and he identifies him. 他看到了迈克尔·怀特的照片，认出了他
"That's the guy with the beady eyes." Instantly. “就是那个长着珠子眼的家伙”立马
I'm sure. 100%. That's him. 我确定，百分之百是他
Later, she doesn't have two men with her, she's alone. 后来，她没和两个朋友一起，她独自一人
He either convinced her he would give her a ride, 他要么说服她他会载她一程
or asked her for another drink. 或者请她再喝一杯
Who knows? We don't know. 谁知道呢？我们不知道
But she probably willingly went with him. 但她可能很乐意和他一起去
And then, somewhere along that line, something went very wrong. 然后，沿途的某处，出了很大的问题
Michael Whyte said during interrogation, 迈克尔·怀特在审讯中说
"She looks just like my ex-wife." “她看起来就像我的前妻”
Was that his attraction to her? 那是他对她的吸引力吗？
Was that the foundation of his rage towards her? 这就是他对她震怒的原因吗？
You can say that, you can't prove it. 你可以那样讲，但你无法证明
But it does make you wonder. 但这确实让你感到感到诧异
We don't know the crime scene, location. 我们不知道作案现场和地点
But Mr. Whyte loses control. 但怀特失去了控制
Does terrible things to her body. 对她的身体做了可怕的事情
A bridle around her mouth from twisted coat hangers. 一条缰绳套在她嘴上，用扭曲的衣架
Applies enough pressure to kill her from asphyxia. 施加足够的压力使她窒息而亡
He then dumps her body next to a dumpster. 他然后把她的尸体丢弃在垃圾箱旁边
One of the things that's surprising about that crime scene, 犯罪现场令人惊讶的一点是
three cigarettes consumed, down to the filters, 抽掉了三支香烟，一直到过滤嘴
all three contain his DNA. 这三个都含有他的DNA
It takes a few minutes to smoke a cigarette, 抽一支烟需要几分钟的时间
but he smoked three of them. 但他抽了三支
What was he doing? 他在做什么？
Admiring his work? 欣赏他的作品？
Calming down? 冷静下来？
Try to stop his panic? 试着阻止他的恐慌？
At the very moment that he was having those thoughts 就在他产生这些想法的那一刻
that no one's ever going to know, 没有人会料到
there was a British research doctor at work on a DNA analysis tool 有一位英国研究博士正在研究一种DNA分析工具
that would allow people to identify Michael David Whyte 能让人们认出迈克尔·大卫·怀特
over 30 years later. 在30多年后
Nobody expected a quick verdict. 谁也没想到会很快做出裁决
In this case, they deliberated for about three hours. 这个案件，他们商议了大约三个小时
And the judge brought the jury in. 法官把陪审团请来了
"Have you reached a verdict?" “你得出结论了吗？”
She said, "On the first count of first-degree murder, 她说，“关于第一项一级谋杀罪”
with deliberation... “经过审议...”
we, the jury, find him guilty." “我们陪审团认定他有罪”
Guilty. 有罪
And that's all we needed to hear. 这就是我们想听到的
Guilty. 有罪
It was like the world lifted off of our shoulders. 就像卸下了我们肩上的重担
A flood of emotions. 如洪水般涌来的情感
Guilty, guilty, guilty. 有罪，有罪，有罪
Michael Whyte was sentenced to life with the possibility of parole. 迈克尔·怀特被判处无期徒刑，有可能获得假释
But given Michael Whyte's age, 但鉴于迈克尔·怀特的年龄
I don't think he's going to be able to make it to his parole. 我认为他撑不到假释期了
Three decades later, an arrest was made, 三十年后，有人被捕
and a jury convicted Michael Whyte of first-degree murder. 陪审团判定迈克尔·怀特犯有一级谋杀罪
Her parents say, "Justice has been served." 她的父母说，“正义得到了伸张”
The crime he committed was one of enormous violence, 他犯下的罪行是极其暴力的
savage behavior. 野蛮的行为
Worst I've ever seen in a sex crime. 这是我见过的最令人发指的性犯罪
And now, Mr. Whyte is gonna pay for that, 如今，怀特先生要为此付出代价
and he will die in a 6x9 concrete room, 他会在一个6x9的混凝土房间里死去
where he belongs. 属于他的地方
制片人：是什么让你同意了这次采访？
Um... 嗯...
commitment to Darlene. 对达琳的承诺
Can't undo that. 无法撤消
But you gotta do what you can. 但你必须尽你所能
制片人：如果你现在可以和她说话，你会说什么？
I love you, baby girl. 我爱你，宝贝女孩
I always called her my baby girl. 我总是叫她我的宝贝女孩
And she knows. 她知道
Mr. Whyte didn't realize something that's quite significant. 怀特没意识到什么很重要的事情
He believed that that moment in his life passed by... 他以为他生命中的那一刻已经过去了...
and he survived it. 他挺过来了
He got away with it. 他侥幸逃脱了
But there were always footsteps behind him. 但他身后总有人紧追不舍
Always. 永远